OrientMen's Japanese Automatic / Hand-Winding Stainless Steel 200 Meter Diving Watch
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Best Overall Non-Pro Diver In $100-$500 Price Range
I'll get this out of the way first: The Orient Ray (Black) is my daily-wear watch, and I love it. I say it's in the Non-Pro category only because, for a number of reasons, including water resistance rating of 20ATM (200 Meters) it is not suitable for deep diving. Now, let me tell you why I love it, giving you the high points and low points.***Important: My evaluation is based on my personal preferences in watch styling and mechanics. The only hard & fast rule in watch preferences is that there ARE NO hard & fast rules in watch preferences, so take my points in that context. If you see watches in the same way I do, you may find them helpful.1. Dive Styling: 41.5" case size turns out to be my sweet spot, and the black bezel with larger marked 10 second increments is clear, easy to read. The face is black, and it's a DEEP DARK BLACK, as is the bezel, contrasting well with the hour markings. The hour & minute hands are modified "sword styling", the second hand a long, slim pointer tipped with a bright red spear. It's a little thing, but the detail finish on all three hands is the quality of a much more expensive timepiece. All three are lumed, and it's a bright, long lasting lume - I can easily read mine in the dark after eight hours of sleep. Ditto on the hour markers and bezel pip. Which brings me to a personal preference - the Ray's hour markers are either round or rectangular, with a slightly larger wedge shape at "12" position - no "numbers". I believe this gives a dive watch a much cleaner look, but some folks like to see some numbers - if you do, consider the Orient Mako, with numerals at 6,9 & 12. Personal preference.2. Case: Orient makes a heavy-feeling SS case w/screw-down back. It feels solid, and supports the 200M depth rating, and I'm guessing might actually rate considerably higher. Top surfaces are finely brushed, with side surfaces polished, for a subtly expensive look. Crown is screw-down, as a dive watch should be, with grip a little on the hard to grasp side, but still acceptable. Crown is polished, with the Orient logo embossed on the end, a classy touch. Action is firm when adjusting hands & day/date. Threads engage firmly, with an appropriately sized thread tube that does not "wobble" when the crown is grasped. The Ray has built-in crown guards formed as part of the case - I find this one it's most attractive cosmetic features, and of course it makes perfect sense to protect the crown. Crystal is "mineral"...I would have paid more to get the same watch with a Sapphire crystal, but understand the cost/benefit calculation. Having said that, I've been wearing Orients with mineral crystals for about five years now, with no scratches, and I'm a clumsy oaf with my watches, so it must be a pretty hard surface.3. Bezel: As mentioned, bezel on this model is a deep, inky black, with minute numerals crisply rendered in a SS tone. The Ray's bezel is a 120 click version. Here is one if my two criticisms - the action on this bezel, like the older model Ray & Mako's I've owned, is really too tight for diving use - there is no possible way it could be turned under water with or without gloves, because the "teeth" around the circumference are too small & smooth considering the tight action. This actually works well if worn as I do, in a "desk diving" mode, where bumps do not dislodge it, but not underwater, if that is a consideration.4. Movement: The new Ray features a hacking house-built Orient beating automatic heart, #F6922. My previous Orients used the older, Non-Hacking movement, which is one of the key reasons I fell in love with Orient Automatics. The older movement ran just a bit slow for me, but more importantly was ALWAYS very CONSISTENT, with a very quiet winding pendulum. The new movement seems already to be just as high quality - and my particular F6922 is running consistently about 10-12 seconds fast per day, which I consider perfect for an automatic. No guarantee yours will do the same, but believe me, this movement is the equal of far more expensive engines. The Day/Date function is crisp & seats perfectly in the viewing windows. Thank GOD Orient has ditched the "Day" Pusher located at 2 o'Clock on the old Ray case, with the arrival of the new movement. It was ugly, cheap looking, and another way for the watch to leak (I put up with it because I loved the rest of the watch so much). Another small Orient detail - the silver Day/Date window "frame" is beautifully finished & perfectly seated. The second hand sweep is not as buttery smooth as a 28K or Hi-Beat movement would be, but perfectly acceptable, and the red tip gives that little extra "instrument panel" look to the overall analog face. While we're talking movements, personal preference #2 - Automatic movements are my requirement vs Quartz...I've owned lots of both, don't own any Quartz's now. There are great Quartz divers out there - the Seiko Tuna monoblock titanium Quartz was one of my first "crushes", but I'm strictly an Auto guy now.5. Bracelet/Band: I removed the bracelet as soon as I unboxed the watch, and placed the watch on a black 22mm ballistic nylon 2-Pc. Strap. This is one of those personal preference deals - I like a light wearing watch/strap combo - and you may prefer a bracelet, no problem. It's an OK bracelet, medium weight class for a SS bracelet, although a ratcheting dive clasp replacing the deployant clasp would be cool. My least favorite features are the non-solid end link covers - they are the usual flimsy covers, and in my opinion have no place on a timepiece purporting to aspire to the name "Dive Watch". I left the plastic & paper wraps on mine, and will be selling it. If I ever want a bracelet for this watch, I'll go aftermarket, possibly the solid end-link model w/ ratcheting dive extension used on Orient's own Saturation Diver, which also has a 22mm Lug width.6. Overall, I'm in love. My watch collection is down to two - this and a Deep Blue Pro-Aqua Auto, for those days I feel like wearing a brick on my wrist. If one dive watch is all you want to worry about, and you don't dive for a living, some color version of the Orient Ray will make you a very happy Desk Diver.
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Unbelievable value, and very acceptable in and of itself. Don't be concerned about the relatively low price. Buy It.
i have a small collection of fairly high end watches (omega speedmaster '57, frederique constant healy, longines conquest, rolex explorer 2). i know quality in watches and i believe you absolutely get what you pay for. my two most expensive watches come in at just under $6,000 each. i have long wanted a rolex submariner, but was unwilling to go nearly $10,000 at the AD where i bought my explorer, and am uncertain about purchasing the numerous pre-owned pieces spread around the Web. i love having excellent and beautiful objects around me.seems like all that might kind of rule out this little orient, eh? not so fast. i bought this from amazon on an absolute whim. under $200 (hundred!!) bucks. i had read favorable reviews, but i thought there was always an undertone of "for the price . . . " well, it came in promptly from amazon, as usual, and i am absolutely delighted with this every-day watch. it truly looks GOOD, not a single fit and finish issue. i wear it about twice a week, so it usually goes dead in between. a few strokes on the crown and we're back in business. crown feels pretty sturdy, and i notice no time creepage one way or the other (remember, only wearing it one day at a time). i have absolutely no complaints on the watch itself.the bracelet is a little more problematic for me. i think it's here that the low-low-price may let the orient down. it's definitely o.k.a.y., but not spectacular for sure. it did adjust easily (removable links), but it seems a little clattery or rattling or something like that. again, totally okay, just not up to the oyster or jubilee standards (of a multi-thousand dollar watch, remember).i really truly don't think you can go wrong with this little guy. if you're just starting out, have a small budget, just want to see what a diver's watch looks like on your wrist, DO BUY this item. i can't imagine you'll be disappointed --- just remember you only paid $200 for it!
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