The Coming of the Quantum Christ: The Shroud of Turin and the Apocalypse of Selfishness Kindle Edition

I have read three other books about the Shroud but they don't touch the quality of information you wil find here in Klotz's book. Brilliantly organized and written, he presents both sides of the argument regarding the validity of this piece of cloth and in doing so he totally destroys what is sometimes nothing more than the propaganda from those whose agenda is something other than pursuit of the truth. If you read this book, and I really hope you will, you soon discover that for a number of scientists involved in the original investigation by STURP, they proved the long held belief I have that scientists are not ALWYAS objective and they are as susceptible to deceit and deception as any other human being! Really, the search for the truth in itself makes for a great read!Then comes the thorough exploration of and explanation of the thousands of tests and examinations of the Shroud. In the interest in fairness, prior to reading this book,mo supposed I could be described as an agnostic on the issue of the divinity of Christ and the credibility of the books of the NT. reading this work, sealed the deal for me; I now have answers to my questions about Jesus and I now believe in his divinity.mi always thought of him as the greatest moral leader ever, but now, I understand that He truly came here to explain the nature of God. He leads the way in my opinion. Furthermore, my faith that he is nit sitting on a throne salivating at the opportunity to judge each one of us and sort the good from evil and with sweet vengeance condemning those who have not worshiped Him to the eternal fires ofHell. Instead he taught us how to live our lives that honor his life and sacrifice for us. Loving and caring for each other, shunning the material, several exhortations against the never ending quest by too many to accumulate more and more wealth and material things when every day thousands of children die of starvation and lack of basic medical care. And several times Jesus told us that if we want to know what he looks like, we need only look into the faces of the poor and sick and suffering.Now I confess that the book has not answered every question I have, but I now have the basics. Sort of that in the fullness of time and in my personal growth, I will have all questions answered.And while there are heroes and villains in the stories of the men and women who investigated the Shroud, there are a few on either side who stand out significantly, some are a tribute to scientific investigation; others violate the trust of objectivity in search of truth and their deceptions will surely be remembered in part because of this book. It will serve as a guide to all of us as to how to evaluate the credibility of some scientists.So, in short, for me, it was a great book and it is a book I will read again..it is that brilliant! I know there are some who will excoriate me and what I learned fro this reading, but, honestly, I do not care. While I am not religious, devoted to any one particular variation on the ways to unite with God, I do my best to follow Christ and often but ask if I am doing what He would want me to do. My life is different because of this book and am a very different man after reading this.And I would like to point out at that in the list of heroes who possess impeccable veracity is Bartie Schwortz. If you read the book you will understand that how his work as the official photographer makes a huge contribution to our understanding of the Shroud. He is one really,mreally smart guy!

Interesting book, actually an apologetic for the authenticity of the shroud of Turin.Traces the known history of the shroud, the controversies around it, the tests that were done on it and the botched results of the carbon 14 testing, in which they took samples from the edges of the shroud, rather than various places, including the middle. The blood tests were also controversial because of the man who originally did them. A few scientists were out to debunk the shroud and a few to prove its authenticity, and the best of them were those who did not have an agenda.Also the author covers modern times -- the succession of popes, the violence of the middle east, end times prophecies, and quantum theories. Plus the possibilities for new tests, using advanced techniques.He also discusses what the meaning of the shroud has been for many, and may have for we in the early 21st century and beyond.I enjoyed the read, even on Kindle, so do recommend it to people interested in the meaning of the shroud and certainly those folks out there who may be "shroudies."

I have almost finished this book, but I'm sure I will read it again. There is just SO much information to absorb!Despite a troubling number of editing faux pas, this is quite an enjoyable read and I would highly recommend it to anyone who is at all interested in the history of the scientific investigation of the Shroud of Turin. Thoroughly debunks the carbon dating "proof" that the shroud is a Medieval artifact, but there is so much more! I defy anyone who is on the fence about the shroud's authenticity to read it with an open mind - you might surprise yourself!Highly recommended

The Holy Shroud is not authentic because the mysterious dorsal and ventral body image and blood marks were obviously created by craftsmen or artists to tell the gospel story of the Passion of Jesus. Evidence for this is that the blood marks are un-smeared, the quality of the image, and the unusual dimensions of the linen cloth. According to Charles Freeman, who argues that the Holy Shroud is a medieval painting, there is a 7-centimeter discrepancy between the length of the dorsal and ventral images. John Klotz does a good job of refuting the medieval theory, but he is quite wrong in thinking the evidence against the medieval theory is evidence of authenticity.John Loken and Thomas de Wesselow advocate the authenticity of the Holy Shroud to give an historical explanation for the Resurrection of Jesus. According to them, the body of Jesus was stolen and Christians mistook the mysterious image to be the resurrected Jesus.Christians advocate the authenticity of the Shroud, I guess, because they think one big miracle is a better reason to believe in Jesus than a small historical miracle and a small scientific miracle. The big miracle is the “bodily resurrection” of Jesus three days after the crucifixion, which left an empty tomb and a transformed burial shroud. The small historical miracle is the renewed fellowship of Jesus’ followers after the crucifixion. The small scientific miracle is the image on the Shroud.No one questions the factuality of the two small miracles. Concerning the big miracle, it is not even clear to me that Jesus was buried in a separate tomb and not in a mass grave for criminals. I recall reading Raymond Brown’s explanation of why it was “historically certain” that Jesus’ burial was arranged by a prominent member of the Sanhedrin. To me something is historically certain when all historians at major universities are in agreement.The word “quantum” in the title is a reference to quantum mechanics, which replaced classical mechanics when it was discovered that light is not only a wave made of electric and magnetic fields but is also a particle. Quantum mechanics explains why cobalt-60 transforms into nickel-60 with a half-life of 5.27 years, but it does not explain why a particular cobalt-60 atom decays at the particular time that it does. There is also a measurement problem you don’t have in classical mechanics. In classical mechanics, the motion of the moon is not affected by how many people are looking at the moon. There is a cartoon that explains the measurement problem in quantum mechanics. The first frame shows Alice having a conversation with Bob, but her back is turned. Alice is a real person, but Bob is a shapeless cloud. In the second frame, Alice has turned to look at Bob and Bob has become a real person too.Klotz is quite right to say, “Some scientists hypothesize that human consciousness is a quantum phenomena.” However, he is wrong to take this nonsense seriously. Consciousness is a reference to the conscious knowledge of humans as opposed to the sense knowledge of animals. It is a metaphysical concept because our knowledge of it comes, not from our senses, but from our transcendence, that is, our ability to make ourselves the subject of our own knowledge. Consciousness has no more to do with quantum mechanics than it does with classical mechanics.The other inanity is the book concerns the “Apocalypse of Selfishness.” This is a reference to global warming and argues that governments should do something to stop it. Klotz believes in government intervention in the economy.

Excelente

Wide and in depth review of the burial shroud of Yeshua Mashiach....Jesus Christ. As for the apocalypse of selfishness....I have more faith in the Resurrection than humanity's selfless love. Our only saving grace is that nothing is impossible for God.

Useful overview of the scientific ins and outs surrounding the shroud. Then goes into long "meditation mode" that could well be reduced to a tenth of its size, as it drifts away from the topic of the shroud. Could do with some serious editing to clear away irritating typos, grammatical errors and repetitions.

In the first place this is the most readable account of the investigations of the Shroud. However Klotz takes it a lot further. I may not totally understand the final chapters, but I will be re-reading them. I just wish this was in print so I could pass it as a gift.