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K**R
LP: Definitely Necessary and Almost Sufficient
This is a review for the 4th edition of the Lonely Planet "Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan".All-in-all, this is a positive review. To put it in perspective: I have not used the previous editions of this book, or any other travel guides for the region. I travelled all three countries in two weeks, actually using the route (Tbilisi, Baku, Seki, Yerevan, two monasteries, Tbilisi, Kazbegi) suggested by the book for such an endeavor, even if decided independently from the book.The LP proved to be quite useful, in particular when it comes to the maps and information on transportation (departure sites and times). Of course, some timetables change, so if you tend to plan tightly, try to inquire ahead of time. The map material was generally sufficient, though sometimes slightly inaccurate, which may also be caused by the vicious construction activity particularly in Georgia. A separate map for the Kazbegi area would be helpful. It would be nice to have some information on hiking Debed Canyon in Armenia.It is almost essential for information on some sights, as occassionally there is no or very sparse information in English at the actual sight. So if you want to read a little about the history of the place you are looking at, the LP provides some. At this point, I would like to make a suggestion for future editions, though: Some of the sights *do* have information in English, sometimes more elaborate than the LP. If the intention is to keep the book at a reasonable travel size, one could leave out information on the sites that do have their own and include some more info on the sights that don't have a lot for people not knowing the languages of the region. The way things are now, the history sections in the LP are quite brief. The writing style tends to be slightly sarcastic, which seems to be a matter of taste.I would also include a little more information on the languages, in particular the alphabets for Georgian and Armenian, respectively. I printed those out separately, and while I did not have time to learn the Armenian alphabet, I did learn about 60% of the Georgian (the most important letters), which is extremely helpful when reading road signs for locations (often in Georgian only) or menus at non-tourist eateries. (Tip: Print out a few essential words, such as Tbilisi, one, two, three, your name in the original script and transliterated. Learning the letters by memorizing a few common words makes it a lot easier and more fun. Also, you can make the locals happy if you learn a few words such as hello, how are you, my name is ..., and thank you.) For the most important locations, the LP does include the name in Georgian with the description of the place in the book, but I believe it wouldn't hurt to do this with almost all locations.Here are a few more specific issues:The marionette theatre in Tbilisi at the time of writing only has shows on Fri, Sat, and Sun. This is not posted outside the theatre, you need to ask an employee. There seems to be no operational post office in Tbilisi (or Georgia in general). We and multiple other travellers had no luck finding one at the various suggested locations. Train 372 from Yerevan to Tbilisi leaves Yerevan at 15:15 in the summer; the train number may be different as well. There is no overnight train to Tbilisi. Mugam Club in Baku is closed on Monday nights. To get to the main bus terminal in Baku, leave the subway at 20 Yanvar, then take a bus to avtovagzal (about 20 minutes).The exchange rates for Dram (Armenia) and Manat (Azerbaijan) are incorrect.The hike up mount Kazbeg to the glacier takes a little longer than the LP seems to suggest. We left Gergeti at 10 am, spent about 30 minutes at the monastery, and then climbed the mountain with essentially no breaks. We had very little to carry and overtook almost all other hikers, which were, without exception, multiple day hikers trying to climb past the glacier. Yet, at 3:50 pm, being within 500m of the glacier, we decided to turn back without having reached it, in fear it might get dark before we hit the main road again. I estimate it to be a good 1h 45m - 2h from the rest point at 2960m until you reach the glacier. In total, we hiked for 9h 45m, including a few 5 minute breaks, but did not make it. Be aware and start at 8 am. Bring water. Note: We are in our early 30's and in decent shape, I run 8 miles a week, my friend swims 2 or 3 km a week, both at a decent pace.One final note: I also bought the 'International Travel Maps' map "Azerbaijan & Armenia" Azerbaijan & Armenia 1:560,000 including inset of BAku and Yerevan , which also includes a good portion of Georgia (except Kazbegi). I cannot recommend this map. The transliteration of names into English is quite bad, to the point where you cannot recognize them sometimes, and names in the original scripts are not included. Further, some towns and villages are shown on the map that don't seem to exist, while existing ones are excluded. In total, I found the small maps within the LP a lot more helpful than this map. The best maps at various scales are available from Geoland (in Tbilisi and online: geoland.ge).Addendum 01/26/13: We experienced very little corruption or attempts at double-crossing. The occasional taxi driver may claim that you agreed with him on a price of 50 Manat or Lari instead of the 15 you clearly remember, but in the two cases we experienced this, we firmly repeated the originally agreed upon price once or twice and the attempts were stopped (one of the taxi drivers even made a slightly embarrassed face right away). One thing happened, however, in Baku: When we descended the steps from the monument for WW2 as well as the war in 1992 at dusk, we were approached by two men who claimed to be police and flashed some kind of ID in front of our faces. They claimed to have seen us kissing on top of the stairs, close to the memorial and a mosque which is also located up there, and said this was a serious impermissible act. My friend and I have never exchanged a kiss in the 12 years that we have known each other. They proceeded to threaten us with taking us to the "police station". We kept stating that we did not kiss and were willing to accompany them to the police station to make a statement. Eventually, they left us with a warning and vanished.We are fairly certain that these gentlemen were interested in obtaining money from us in exchange for not taking us to the police station. We have experienced similar situation several times in formerly Soviet occupied countries and can only recommend showing the same readiness to be taking to "the authorities" to other travelers.
S**G
Wonderful guide book, due for an update
I used this book mainly for Georgia with a brief foray into Armenia. Overall it is a great book and lived up to the high Lonely Planet standards. The practical information about traveling, like the list of mini-bus fares and timetables to various locations, was extremely useful. There are thoughtful features like a food glossary and chart of khachapuri (cheese bread) varieties... which you will definitely need, since the food is a highlight of the region! The recommendations for restaurants and bars were mostly spot-on, occasionally a bit perplexing, and once or twice REALLY bad (ahem, Armenian jazz bar) but maybe I just don't share the exact taste of the authors. A few of the places we tried to go were no longer in existence, or seemed like they might have changed since the review a few years ago, so it seems like an update is due. However, I would still recommend this book and will use it again if I go back to this fascinating region!
S**N
Most useful Caucasus guide book for an odd reason
We have just returned from a month-long trip through the three countries of the Caucasus and found, sadly, that they (to paraphrase the old Kingston Trio song) don't like each other very much. While Georgia is on good terms with both neighboring Armenia and Azerbaijan, the latter two seem to be on a collision course... reinterpreting history to suit their own current political ends. If you visit Armenia first and travel to occupied Karabagh, forget getting into Azerbaijan. You will even be hassled at the airports of both capitals if your passport contains a visa from the other country.This whole bit of nastiness between the two even extends to guidebooks a traveler might be carrying upon entering one or the other. If authorities notice in Baku that you have an "Armenia Guidebook" they will confiscate it... and visa versa in Yerevan if you have an "Azerbaijan Guidebook." This, therefore, makes the Lonely Planet Guide that covers all three countries a good choice for a guidebook to be carrying through the region...if for a sad reason. While other guidebook might provide more detail on history and places to see, as usual, this Lonely Planet Guide manages to do a good job covering things in all three countries in one slim volume. Well done, again, Lonely Planet!
R**R
Fine for the basics.
I used this book just for Georgia. It was fine for the most part. But for hiking in Tusheti and Mestia areas, it is of very limited value. Definitely inadequate for those purposes. Unfortunately, I could not find any good info on hiking in the Georgia Caucusus. The National Park office in the Tusheti area is also of limited value without useful maps or expertise. There are topo maps at a nice shop in Tblisi, but these maps do not show the trails. Maybe because there really aren't any, especially in Tusheti. If you go off the road to climb the passes, which I did, it is very difficult. Give yourself many hours to figure out where you're going. Mestia was better organized with more information, but still very very tricky.
M**Y
Surprisingly still up to date, 2 years later
I took this book to Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia in February 2015 - yes, definitely off-peak, but still amazing and zero tourists. I have a big problem with LP: too much content on gay rights and the environment, not enough effort on supplying fresh information. Worse, the info is often outdated by the time you get there. Attractions, restaurants closed, etc. - often for quite a long time. But anyway, this book was surprisingly current, and I never wasted time seeking places that were no longer there. Maybe that's a reflection of the general stasis in the region. If you're wondering, Azerbaijan was the biggest (positive) surprise; Armenia also great; Georgia, hmmm.
R**
Handlicher Reiseführer aus dem Jahr 2012
Wir (meine Frau und Ich) sind dieses Mal mit dem altbewährten LP nach Georgien gereist. Das sehr kompakte Buch deckt drei Länder ab, wobei wir nur in Georgien (wo unser Sohn arbeitet) und im Nachbarland Armenien waren (nur in Yerevan), jedoch nicht in Aserbaidschan, da wir aus Prinzip keine Länder mehr besuchen, wo man ein teures und umständlich zu beschaffendes Visum erwerben muss. Daher können wir Aserbaidschan natürlich nicht beurteilen.Das vorliegende Buch stammt aus dem Jahr 2012, wurde also wahrscheinlich 2011 oder früher erarbeitet. Daher liegt es in der Natur der Sache, dass vieles nicht mehr aktuell sein kann. Darüber sollte sich jeder im Klaren sein, der in die Länder des Kaukasus reist.Das ist aber nicht der Arbeit des Autors geschuldet, sondern liegt einfach in der Natur von "Umbruchsstaaten".Im LP sind vor allem gute Angaben zum Reisen innerhalb der Länder zu finden und noch weitestgehend aktuell (dort fährt sowieso jeder Minibus wie er will und nicht immer nüchtern!). Wer sich aber wirklich für Land und Leute interessiert, sollte sich noch einen ergänzenden Reiseführer besorgen, da der LP doch sehr oberflächlich ist (deckt auch nur wenige "Rennstrecken " ab. Einige gebiete fehlen völlig (z.B. Bolnissi, ein ehem. deutsches Dorf). Wahrscheinlich wäre das Buch sonst zu dick geworden. Zum Glück hatten wir einen guten Fahrer gefunden, der uns die Gegend zeigte. Die wenigen Stadtpläne boten eine ganz gute Orientierung. Da die Straßen aber nur noch als Strich eingezeichnet sind und Hotels etc. einfach darauf gezeichnet wurden, kann es passieren, dass man lange sucht. In kleinen Orten nicht das Problem, aber in Tiflis mußten wir zum Bsp. die Straße wieder zurück gehen und dann durch einen Tunnel auf der gegenüberliegenden Straßenseite weiter suchen.Insgesamt ein gutes Überblickswerk mit dem Stand von 2012 oder früher.
S**G
Rambling around Caucasus
This book is a little lacking in maps for some places which is disappointing especially as the LP maps are consistently exceptional and about the best part of their publications. Georgia and Armenia are both described with some enthusiasm as countries for hiking and exploring monasteries. I was more interested in exploring cities and towns. I was put off Azerbaijan by the £100 visa fee but, based on this book, I missed the most exciting and dynamic country of the three. Another time. The information available is helpful - though online accommodation sites are worth checking for new additions. A bit thin as ever on the full range of museums - which does influence whether to visit a place and how long to stay. It could also have given more information on bus options and journey times - it takes about 6 hours to get from Batumi to Tbilisi (frequent all day), but there is one bus a day from Gori in the Kutaisi direction, so you need to travel from the Tbilisi hub.
K**R
... usually buy Dorling Kindersley travel guides and I was disappointed that they have not covered these countries
I usually buy Dorling Kindersley travel guides and I was disappointed that they have not covered these countries. The Lonely Planet guide is a different animal and more designed for independent travellers than those on a guided trip, which includes me. I missed the illustrations of the DK guides but I found the descriptions in Lonely Planet useful and accurate.
T**S
Does well despite changes
Despite attempting three countries (by most counts) in one slim guide, this book is admirable for cramming in practical info in a condensed and useable arrangement. Certain failings will always feature - prices rise and restaurants close - but on the whole we found this guide to be accurate and helpful. Its background sections on culture, history, language, etc., could definitely do with some expansion though.
A**I
pratique
format kindle ebook pratique.Les adresses données sont souvent intéressantes, mais couvrir trois cultures en un seul livre est évidement difficile. M'a rendu service et se lit facilement. Je recommande donc
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