The Astrology of Fate

Amazing read! Liz Greene absolutely NAILED it!Some of my favorite quotes from the book:“The discovery of one’s own poisonousness is one of the less attractive aspects of a confrontation with Pluto.”“The ego is fond of wanting to change everything it finds in the psyche according to its own values and standards, and Pluto’s poison provokes a predictable response: Now that I have seen my ugliness, I find it despicable, and must cure it.”“Those who believe in reincarnation as a concrete philosophy may take this as the blessing of Pluto: that we mercifully do not remember our fates when we are born. Or we may take it more symbolically; Not only do we mercifully forget what has been written for us at birth, but we also do not remember very well what it was like down in the Great Place Below when a Pluto experience has passed.”“We do not recall this place, for if we did, we would lose our courage for the future and the next turn of the Great Round.”“I have also found that experiences of Pluto often coincide with a remembering of what has been forgotten, a rediscovery of grief and rage and hatred that has been numbed and driven underground by the ego for the sake of survival.”“Where Pluto is found in the horoscope, there is often a forgetting, a necessary repression, and a liability to sudden recollection and the volcanic eruption of poison on an object who may be no more than a catalyst.”“These are the things which we must forget for a time, in order to live.”Definitely buy this book if you’re into astrology and mythology! It was so worth it!

Some of the myths and overall insight discussed by the author in Chapter 8 "Myth and the Zodiac" kept ringing in my head for days. I was mesmerized in recognizing hidden aspects of myself and one or two of my closest friends and family regarding some personal characteristics that baffled me in the past. The "clicking in my head" was an uncanny experience, and just this made more than worthwhile reading the book. I have a large attunement to Pluto- Sun, Mars, and Venus within a 4° conjunction with Pluto, Scorpio Moon and Ascendant, and the South node in the 8th house- so I was eager to read all about Pluto. However, the book did not bring forth many great new insights into Fate's forging fist, although I will read it again in the near future.With respect to writing style, although I have the utmost respect for the author, I always find in Ms. Greene's writings the former to be a bit too erudite, not in depth, but a tad heavy due to her intent to be thorough in which, I respectfully feel, that the proverbial nail is hit on the head once too much. Because of this, sometimes my attention tends to wander, and I find myself in need to draw upon discipline to keep my mind focused.I found a printing error in one of the progression lists depicted in the book even though I did not inspected them in full, and also King Henry II on 3/31/1559 became 40 years old (birth 3/31/1519), so he was in his 41st year at the time of his death 7/10/1559 and not in his 42nd year as stated in the book and in the prophecy, according to the book, made by Gauricus about 4 years before. Nostradamus' quatrain referring to this event does not indicate age or date (I apologize for pointing out these minor details but my Sun is in Virgo....fate). Although this, the prophecy is a most remarkable event.All in all, a great and gallant book dealing with a knotty issue about fate and free will, and even though a thorough answer was not truly expected, I perceived the author overall "feeling" on the subject, although I suspect she has more to say that was not put forth in writing.

This is an amazing book.On a personal level, astrology doesn't click with me. But, I find the myth and lore behind the planets, their respective gods and meanings, utterly fascinating. In our current era, spirituality has taken on a looseness I have come to suspect is more harmful than detrimental. I was once on the band wagon of anti-fate, and while I don't deny the ability to be self-willing, I wonder if there are valuable lessons we can learn as a society on a whole when we view our lives through the lens of Fate.I found that reading this book was an emotional, sensitive, exciting, and thought provoking experience. It's hard to describe Liz Greene's methods without taking away from the book, but suffice to say, if you have ever felt a burden of fate, seen interweaving of personal stories in your family history, have experienced intense self-hatred arising from a place deep within yourself - you'll find resonance in her words.It's not an easy read if you're expecting tabloid astrology, or if talking about (or even thinking about) things like family incest, inheritance, sexuality and the like make you squirm. Liz Greene elegantly discusses cultural taboos in a variety of ways whilst showing the interrelationships between cultural taboos, family inheritance, and individual responsibility. I find it beautiful, but others may understandably be uncomfortable - it's not bad, as the book goes deep and hard, discussing suicide of patients, abuse, manipulation, etc.Try it, read it, think about. I'm not sure if astrology unto itself is the key to our future, and yet, I admire people like Liz Greene who, eschewing the morality and hushing of a Judeo-Christian society, really shines a light on human nature as it truly is - dark, animal, and more wild and mysterious than we can begin to imagine.

I adore Liz Greene and I love looking at the mythos of the archetypes of astrology. Adding to my Liz Greene collection and I’m excited to read this book further! Great quick shipping!

Ms Greene wonders throughout the pages of this book if our fates are fixed. I dare to say that the "starting position" depicted on our birth chart is just a proposal, a potential. If we allow the Holy Spirit to guide us, He will improve on that potential; if we instead rely on the egos, the potential depicted on the birth chart will be ruined. The book is beautifully developed by Ms Greene and it makes for a delightful reading. Ms Greene really shines here.

Liz Greene has been my master for at least thirty years. I have the book, which I read a couple of tims many years ago, and reading it again in kindle its just amazing. My consciousness, I hope, has expanded during the past decades, and reading this book again makes me realize how enlightened Liz Green is. My favorite works are her latest (at least in the amazon - her seminars published in kindle, great masyrpieces.

Ce livre a changé ma perception du destin, en quoi je ne croyais pas du tout avant de l'avoir lu.Il m'a fait comprendre le lien entre astrologie et mythologieIl m'a initié aux pensées de Carl JungIl m'a plongé dans la pratique de l'astrologie et m'a permis une plus grande compréhension de l'humain et de son fonctionnement en sociétéIl est très rare qu'un simple livre m'aie autant fait changer ma perception des choses.Je le recommande très très fortement à tout ceux qui cherchent à faire évoluer leurs points de vue, et à ceux qui veut étudier en profonder l'astrologie et la mythologie.

'84年ウェイザーWeiser社刊。わが日本でも、鏡リュウジ氏に拠る、2冊の邦訳書−うち一冊は岡本翔子氏との共訳である−で著名な、リズ・グリーンLizGreeneの著書。 運命か、あるいは自由意思なのかという問題にかんし、簡単に触れている著書は、占星術洋書にも多く存在するけれども、このテーマの為に341頁に亘り詳述した本は稀であろう。 著者は私達人類にとってけして容易でない、運命の定義づけを試みる−むろん、それはひと言やその程度ですむ体のものでなく、さまざまな視点から、何度も鑑みられるのであるが−まずフォークロアをひきあいに、この開花した20世紀では、多くの人々にとって、運命という言葉がしばしば"offensive"だとみいだしたとし、死と運命との関係に変化が起きた事を述べる。 Pt 1"Moira"は6つのChap.に分かれている。5.「運命と変容」は、ある王のホロスコープの検証から、実際の死と、内面の死の2種類の死の問題が鮮やかに論じられる。 Pt.2"Daimon"ここでは8.「神話と獣帯」が占星術を学ぶ私達にとって高興の極みとレヴュアーは考える。 鏡氏は『サターン 土星の心理占星学』で、グリーン氏の手法の特徴を、「該博なギリシャ・ローマ神話の知識を背景に、ホロスコープを心理分析のためのツールとして見事に活用している」（p.7）とあざやかに指摘なさっているが、本書を通読頂ければまさにその通り、と頷いて頂ける事請け合いであり、長じて改めて、上記2冊の邦訳本の再精読に取り組みたくなる向きもおられる事であろう。 Pt 3"Pronoia"は10.「運命と自己」（視力を失った女性（"Why me?"）が、著者自身、その「気付きの質」にうたれる程、前向きな人生を歩むに至るさまが描かれる）等2つのChap.が収録されている。とまれ、レヴュアーは全編の通読をお薦めするしだいである。

UN livre de la célèbre astrologue jungienne incontournable pour ceux qui souhaitent approfondir leur connaissance des planètes transpersonnelles, les comprendre et réussir à leur donner sens. Pluton, la malaimée des astrologues est ici revisitée, même si, contrairement à Saturne que l'auteur a, par ailleurs, défendu dans un autre ouvrage célèbre, elle reste un peu sombre sur sa description de Pluton. Toutefois Liz Greene sait lui donner un sens ontologique. Ce livre n'a pas été traduit en français.

Another brilliant book by Liz Greene.What it is, is a reference book set around the Mythology and Psychology of each Astrology Sign.What it isn't is a "cook book"Astrology of Fate is a must on the bookshelp of anyone studying Astrology.